I asked FENSA and Certass recently on Twitter how many members each of them had. Certass didn’t have the numbers to hand, but FENSA did tweet me this link: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/competent-person-self-certification-schemes-statistics
It then led me to a spreadsheet showing exactly how many members each organisation has, up to September 30th 2012. I have it on PDF if you want to see every Competent Persons Self Certification stat. Click here: competent_person_stats (hint: the latest stats are near the bottom – scroll down!)
But to go straight to the nitty gritty, these are the main numbers you want to know:
FENSA: 8713
Certass: 1850
Network Veka: 87
So according to these figures, there are 10650 window and door companies registered with self-cert organisations. A decent amount. But when you consider Insight Data’s last estimates of around 14,300 window and door companies, with 12,000 installers within the UK, that means there are still quite a few out there unregistered. It does then raise the question: what happens to all those unregistered installations?
Of course, it is NOT law to be part of one of the above self-cert organisations. But I shall get on to that in a moment. In theory, all non-self-cert companies SHOULD register a new installation with their local authority. This of course is not free and will cost the company every time. So is it worth bearing that in mind? We know how many cowboys out there still exist. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that a lot of unregistered companies will in fact not notify their local authorities of the new installation, leaving the homeowner in a spot of bother should they wish to move properties.
This then does lead to the argument that the Government should make it law that every double glazing company, whether a OMB or a team of thousands, should be registered with one of the industry’s self-cert organisations. In the long run for the company it would be cheaper than registering jobs with their council. And for the greater good of the industry, it might force out a few cowboys who continue to resist doing their jobs correctly. If our industry could unite and say to the general public that ALL the sectors installers are part of a fully self-certified network, it might help improve our image a little.
What would also help, would be for the self-cert organisations to have a proper complaints system whereby companies can report illegal or non-compliant practices to the relevant organisation. Whereupon meaningful punishments can be handed down. At the moment, something like this doesn’t exist. Even local councils aren’t that bothered. But what I do believe is that FENSA, Certass and Network Veka all have the money, man power and brains to be able to come up with something like the above.
So there we go. We have accurate numbers. Please feel free to use the PDF above. I shall try and do something like this on a regular basis.
Interesting – what a staggeringly huge number of companies that claim to be able to supply and install windows…
Your spreadsheet PDF hasn’t formatted correctly – any chance of the original spreadsheet? By email if it’s easier. Would like to use some of the data.
Cancel that! I found the same original site as you and downloaded the spreadsheet from there.
Not to worry! I did check the PDF on mine and it does work. Might be a browser issue maybe? Hopefully you’ll find the figures useful anyway!
DGB
Whilst insight data is pretty good they do sometimes double up on the info ie two companies in the same property both owned by the same guy one makes the frames and sells it to the retail arm who then sells them to the public, I bet the majority of them will only register the one company
Peter- a fabricator (only) doesn`t need to be Fensa/Certass registered !!
One more point have Fensa taken into account their membership has dropped. When they bring these installation figures out ?
Fensa do have the shop a cowboy section on there web site . I did ask them how many have been taken to court , no reply to that . Certass have been very silent on the subject
Half hearted conception = half hearted results. Instead of getting rid of the cowboys, the cowboys are blessed by our even higher compliance costs against their cheaper temptations. This is due to a lack of enforcement. Just quoted a job reasonably priced at £ 6,950. Another has come in at £ 5,850 including an additional front door. Assuming a front door with decorative panel was £ 650 plus Vat, that’s £ 1,880 below our quotation. End result is that not only the cowboys, but the good guys will go under in the end if this trend continues. We need a… Read more »