Guarantees seem to be getting longer these days. 10 years for a guarantee seems to be a tad underwhelming now. Yet, when you compare a standard 10 year guarantee to other purchases a homeowner will make, such as a car, electrical appliance or a sofa, that 10 years guarantee we give for windows suddenly looks much better. So I cannot understand why the trend at the minute is for guarantees to be getting longer.
I see more 15 year guarantees now, with the odd 20 year one too. And we all saw that lifetime guarantee offer Everest did for a little while. But I cannot understand why. For me, it’s not about a company being able to say that they’re so confident about their products that they can offer such a long one. Look at Rolls-Royce for example. They offer a 4 year warranty on their cars (http://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/ownership/service-and-aftercare/) with unlimited mileage. But a 4 years, that’s where it ends. You pay a lot of money to buy a luxury car like that, but why should it be up to the manufacturer to commit themselves to decade after decade of free repairs and replacement parts?
You don’t need a mega guarantee to demonstrate the quality of your products. The quality should be enough to speak for itself. But if I was a manufacturer (which I’m not) I cannot understand why I would want to submit my company to say, a 30 year warranty, which covered things like replacement parts, sealed units and workmanship etc. It would be a huge financial burden for the business to commit to – which I don’t think is fair.
From my point of view, these extra long guarantees are a bit gimmicky. From past experience, most of my customers have told me in one way or another that a 20 or 30 year guarantee sounds false simply because of it’s length, and that they doubt that the company offering it would actually honour it.
No business should have to commit to replacing and repairing FOC for longer than is reasonable. My own view is that 10-15 years is quite long enough. No other industry I can think of offers such a long guarantee for a similarly priced product. And, as with anything else you buy, you have to look after it. The better something is looked after, the longer it will remain functional. Again, using the analogy of cars; if you don’t add oil, clean it, check the tyres, add water etc, the car will degrade and won’t last as long. It’s the same with windows and doors. Look after them well and they will last much longer than their guarantee length.
I just cannot see a practical reason for extra long guarantee other than to be used as a sales tool. In practise, I don’t think they mean much more materially. Most people doubt the industry’s guarantees in the first place, why offer anything more than the standard 10 year ones that most have come to expect?
Agree? Do you think that the pattern of extended guarantees is a financial risk most suppliers could do without? Or do you think suppliers should be committing longer to replace and repair free of charge? All comments welcome in the section below.
Totally agree with every word. Looking after customers with real care & attention for 10 years is expensive if you do it properly like we do. We would have to charge 50% more to extend the guarantee to 20 years. Nobody is going to pay that.
Any company that casually announces a 20 year guarantee either doesn’t intend to be around very long or more likely has plenty of exclusions in the guarantee & won’t attend to problems they don’t consider to be covered. In my opinion.
Keep up the good work.
Russell.
Thanks for you comment Russell
Like yourselves, we would have increase our margins by huge amounts in order to give a longer guarantee. It’s not a viable option long term, and, like you say in your comment, there will be a ton of T’s & C’s to get the company out of it
Thanks
DGB
Ten years is ample
All you have to do is offer insurance backed guarantees as required by fensa go bust start up again with a similar name
The insurance company pick up the tab
Simple economics
Sorry its difficult to speak with my tongue in my cheek
In my view, windows should easily bear a 25 year guarantee. This idea that windows have a useful life of 10-15 years is ridiculous. These aren’t fashion items, they are a construction product that can be made well and priced accordingly, or made cheaply and priced accordingly. Too many times vendors of poor quality products will convince gullible customers that ‘all windows are the same – “why pay more than the luvverly deal I’m offering you?”. In the London are there are still houses built in the 1930’s with their original windows. From wood that wasn’t anywhere near as well… Read more »
Hi Londoner thanks for your comment I think there is a double edged sword to this issue. The point that a guarantee should reflect the lifespan of the product is wrong. If a company gives a 10 year guarantee on their products, that doesn’t mean that their windows are going to last just ten years. Most people expect them to last much longer providing they are looked after. I’m not talking about life expectancy when I talk about the length of a guarantee. We have PVC windows fitted 30 years ago that are rock solid and still working well –… Read more »
A 10 year guarantee and 15 on sealed units should be more than sufficient. In addition, if the project is finance by a credit agreement the finance house has to take on board the guarantee even if the agreement is only used for a day. I don’t think the finance house would be too pleased with an endless guarantee period. Possibly why Everest dropped the life time guarantee,( not sure if they have) I believe this life time period only applied if you owned the property as the original owner. A home owner lives in a property for 7 years… Read more »
Maybe the windows are guaranteed.But is the labour?If for instance a unit fails sure the manufacturer replaces it foc but what about the glazing cost.I suppose that comes out of the original fitting fee.
It seems easy to be left out of pocket.
Mark The company I work for its more a warranty as labour costs are included.
As a householder rather than an installer, I just wanted to put in my comment. I am just about to replace 2 sealed units at my own expense for the 2nd time in 20 years. 1st lasted for 7 years and second for 13. Both were guaranteed for 10 years but original installer had gone when I searched for him. Not only expensive, but a real pain, having to live with the view of fog for a while, then find an installer, take time off for measuring, take more time off for fitting etc. And this is why I am… Read more »